My best shot!

[Athanasius]

I'm not a hunter, and in fact, I love all animals as a rule. If they are invading my space however, or that of my dogs, I have no problem with eliminating them. Out here in New Mexico we have plenty of wildlife (not of the nightime variety). One time my husband and I were in our RV, having it parked on some property we own south of Deming, NM. Usually the only predators we run into out there are coyotes (who beg for food) and illegals crossing over with backpacks full of marajuana.

My husband was occupied with something else and not in calling range, and I stepped out of the RV and noticed a rattler under a small bush in front of the RV. Since my husband wasn't there, I ran in and got my 22 rifle, aimed the thing at the snake, and actually shot its head off. Now, I couldn't do that again in one-hundred years. I have to admit, my husband was pretty impressed.

The only other personal run-in I've had with native wildlife here (and this when my husband was at work), was when I went to get one of our dogs in (he's 17 and deaf) and saw that a javelina was standing within a few feet of him. Our dog didn't eve know -dog senility! Fortunatley, a fence separated him from the curious javelina. The javelina's mate was about twenty feet away, waiting for him. I told the javelina to "get out of here you old pig." He just looked at me - "so what are you going to do, lady?" I knew this called for extreme action, so I ran in and got another dog - Benjamin - who's about seven and really big. He barked and raged at the javelinas, and they finally slowly moved off.

I noticed that they had been eating my cactus - the lazy things. There's plenty of other cactus out there for them to eat, why eat mine!?!

The funny thing is that in NM you have to have a special license to hunt javelina, so maybe I should make this place into a game preserve! We also have a really big and mean roadrunner who doesn't obey either!

[Tallen]

Don't eat those nasty Javelina's out of your garden. See Isaiah 66:17. :bigthink:

[JBaker45]

Here's what you need Athanasius...
http://members.cox.net/johnbaker45/xfer/eagle.jpg

[Athanasius]

Don't eat those nasty Javelina's out of your garden. See Isaiah 66:17. :bigthink:

I think the natives used to dig a big pit and thow them in with a bunch of heated rocks and keep it there until it cooked. Of course, since they were Lamanties, they shouldn't have been eating that pork at all (you will only understand that joke if you know about Mormonism)!

[Athanasius]

Here's what you need Athanasius...
http://members.cox.net/johnbaker45/xfer/eagle.jpg

Is that a poor little wolf or coyote cub?

[Yodas_Prodigy]

I just started hunting last November. Ain't shot nothing in to eternity yet. I have a video with a hunt that took place in New Mexico. A lot of fun.


I'm not a hunter, and in fact, I love all animals as a rule. If they are invading my space however, or that of my dogs, I have no problem with eliminating them. Out here in New Mexico we have plenty of wildlife (not of the nightime variety). One time my husband and I were in our RV, having it parked on some property we own south of Deming, NM. Usually the only predators we run into out there are coyotes (who beg for food) and illegals crossing over with backpacks full of marajuana.

My husband was occupied with something else and not in calling range, and I stepped out of the RV and noticed a rattler under a small bush in front of the RV. Since my husband wasn't there, I ran in and got my 22 rifle, aimed the thing at the snake, and actually shot its head off. Now, I couldn't do that again in one-hundred years. I have to admit, my husband was pretty impressed.

The only other personal run-in I've had with native wildlife here (and this when my husband was at work), was when I went to get one of our dogs in (he's 17 and deaf) and saw that a javelina was standing within a few feet of him. Our dog didn't eve know -dog senility! Fortunatley, a fence separated him from the curious javelina. The javelina's mate was about twenty feet away, waiting for him. I told the javelina to "get out of here you old pig." He just looked at me - "so what are you going to do, lady?" I knew this called for extreme action, so I ran in and got another dog - Benjamin - who's about seven and really big. He barked and raged at the javelinas, and they finally slowly moved off.

I noticed that they had been eating my cactus - the lazy things. There's plenty of other cactus out there for them to eat, why eat mine!?!

The funny thing is that in NM you have to have a special license to hunt javelina, so maybe I should make this place into a game preserve! We also have a really big and mean roadrunner who doesn't obey either!

[Tallen]

Here's a picture of YP in his hunting outfit, ready to hunt wabbits.

[Tallen]

Cool! Note the bird in the background that escaped. :clap:

[JBaker45]

Is that a poor little wolf or coyote cub?
It almost looks like a fox to me.

He was probably chowing down on that carcass when Mr. Eagle decided to go for his meal.

[Yodas_Prodigy]

LOLs's

[JBaker45]

Also.. If it's any consolation to you..

If you notice, the eagles talons are not attached to the animal. Perhaps he managed to get away when he hit the ground ;-)

[Joe S]

"get out of here you old pig."

Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that...

Nice shot on the rattler. I've got a collection of rattles from snakes my Papa dispatched while berry picking over the years. I've never seen a live wild rattlesnake myself. I think Papa must have killed them all. Either that or the snake handler churches from up in them mountains caught them all.

Papa had a keen eye. I've stepped right over copperheads that he would kill right behind me, looking where I stepped the whole time. Papa did not suffer a snake to live.

[Athanasius]

It almost looks like a fox to me.

He was probably chowing down on that carcass when Mr. Eagle decided to go for his meal.

Poor little fox.

Which reminds me, in our area we've had a rabies outbreak among foxes all summer. About ten -thirteen people were attacked by and bitten by rabid foxes. My good friend had a dead one in the pasture. I've seen them running around our place, into the canyon, but they looked pretty healthy. When I take the puppy out for a walk, I carry a gun.

[nrajeff]

I could talk about guns and shooting all day long. Anyone who can shoot the head off a snake, is someone I don't want to mess with, even though I used to compete in tournaments! So if I ever visit Athanasius' house, I plan on being really polite. :medium-smiley-011: I did WITNESS a great shot once: My cousin had me order a new Colt Python for him ( I was a gun dealer) and we took it up the canyon to try it out. He shot a few rounds into a paper target and then said, "This is boring, I wanna shoot something that can move." Looking up, we saw a magpie headed our way, really high in the sky. My cousin said "Watch THIS!" and aimed at the tiny speck of bird. I said "There is no way anyone could hit that, you're wasting ammo." He fired, and the magpie started falling. It took a long time to fall because it was so high. It had been flying toward us but was not yet overhead when it was hit, so as it fell, it continued forward a little. When it hit the ground, it was right at our feet. I stood there with my mouth open. Finally I said "That is the greatest shot I have ever seen. When we get home, I am gonna tell people." He said "Don't bother, no one will believe it really happened."

[Athanasius]

I could talk about guns and shooting all day long. Anyone who can shoot the head off a snake, is someone I don't want to mess with, even though I used to compete in tournaments! So if I ever visit Athanasius' house, I plan on being really polite. :medium-smiley-011: I did WITNESS a great shot once: My cousin had me order a new Colt Python for him ( I was a gun dealer) and we took it up the canyon to try it out. He shot a few rounds into a paper target and then said, "This is boring, I wanna shoot something that can move." Looking up, we saw a magpie headed our way, really high in the sky. My cousin said "Watch THIS!" and aimed at the tiny speck of bird. I said "There is no way anyone could hit that, you're wasting ammo." He fired, and the magpie started falling. It took a long time to fall because it was so high. It had been flying toward us but was not yet overhead when it was hit, so as it fell, it continued forward a little. When it hit the ground, it was right at our feet. I stood there with my mouth open. Finally I said "That is the greatest shot I have ever seen. When we get home, I am gonna tell people." He said "Don't bother, no one will believe it really happened."

Poor little bird!

I don't think I could ever hunt anything. Only if something was threatening me or my dogs - then I'd defend myself. It is good to know how to shoot, though! When we go out in the desert, my husband and I have encountered predators - human predators, that is. Once, right after 9/11, we were out in the desert about three miles from the Mexican border, and three guys (foreigners) in para-military clothing came over the rise right at us. I, of course, ran to my husband (I hadn't brought my gun). He simply raised his gun up to show them he was armed, and they gave us wide berth! You'd think the authorities would have protected our borders right after 9/11 - wouldn't you? These guys weren't Mexicans - and they were well equipped. So, you can give it your best guess as to exactly who they were. I understand they've found prayer rugs and Qurans out in our desert areas, so we are always on the alert. Strangely, when Tom Clancey wrote one of his books about Muslim terrorists invading the states, he used our area as the crossing point. That's really reassuring!

Another time in the desert our dogs found about ten illegals hiding in a hole in an area used for dumping. They weren't Mexican - I could tell by how the women were dressed - probably Central Americans of some kind. We gave them water, as they had run out in the blazing heat. I told them in Spanish to go back to Mexico, that there were Border Patrol ahead. I hope they did, but who knows? One time our pastor was fast asleep and heard a helicopter's engine right above him. He grabbed his gun and ran outside. There were about twenty-five illegals in his shed. The helicopter had its search light blazing on the intruders! (What a way to get a congregation!)

Just another day near our border!

[Tallen]

Living near the Canadian border, I don't hear much of illegals entering from that side. Although every once in awhile something happens.

The last time I came across the border into the US was one year to the day after 9/11. I can tell you that every car, bus, truck, camper and anything else that was coming across got a thorough going over.

I have an Egyptian friend that owned a business across the street from mine. He was trying to raise money for his business and was asking for investors to give several million to get his business going and his product to market. The day after 9/11 there was a Michigan State patrol car sitting in my parking lot and was there for several weeks keeping an eye on him. After they investagated him, I suspect, they moved on. When I told him about he got mad, and felt that his American citizenship should protect him from such things. I told him I felt good about it and that my tax money was well spent, in that case. And becuase he was no threat, he should agree. He thought about it for a few days and agreed. :bigtup:

[Athanasius]

Living near the Canadian border, I don't hear much of illegals entering from that side. Although every once in awhile something happens.

The last time I came across the border into the US was one year to the day after 9/11. I can tell you that every car, bus, truck, camper and anything else that was coming across got a thorough going over.

I have an Egyptian friend that owned a business across the street from mine. He was trying to raise money for his business and was asking for investors to give several million to get his business going and his product to market. The day after 9/11 there was a Michigan State patrol car sitting in my parking lot and was there for several weeks keeping an eye on him. After they investagated him, I suspect, they moved on. When I told him about he got mad, and felt that his American citizenship should protect him from such things. I told him I felt good about it and that my tax money was well spent, in that case. And becuase he was no threat, he should agree. He thought about it for a few days and agreed. :bigtup:

I'm glad they investigated him too. Many Muslim terrorists have been American citizens.........their first allegiance is to Allah and the false prophet, Mohammed who urged jihad on all who would not accept Islam.

Now, interestingly, in our neck of the woods (or should I say the sand) the illegals coming across are pretty bold. They'll stop at ranches and ask for food or water. One rancher told the story that the illegals complained to her that a group of Arabs had attempted to walk with them. The Mexicans, however, had segregated themselves from the Arabs - they wanted nothing to do with them.

I understand that Arabs are willing to pay very big bucks to get across the border. It's a profitable business. The government needs to be more vigilant.

[Tallen]

Dearborn, MI, which is not far from Jackson where I live, and is where the largest population of "Arabs" live outside of the Mideast. This population of folks have moved as far as Lansing, Ann Arbor, Jackson and Toledo, where I would suspect they out number the Hispanics by quite a bit. For the most part, most of this demographic is a productive part of the economy and have found a lot of pride in entrepreneurship opportunities found in our country and the freedoms that exist for them. Most do not want that interrupted and have cooperated with the US authorities and find that they would rather be investigated rather than be deported or jeopardize their positions in the US. I was friends with an Iranian who moved here and he was in contact with the Iranian population in the Dearborn area through his family and friends. He is a very good person and has told me on many occasions that the Islamic extremes that we see on TV are really captors of a population of people that were much happier in a more Westernized country under the Shah when he was their leader.

Personally, I think that the extremist in these countries are going to be shortly removed, and a more hideous and sinister Islam will come forward being presented as a friendly religion, especially toward liberal Christianity and the apostatized church. I can see an alliance between Rome, the apostatized church and Islam, which would take in most of the population of the world and could easily persecute the faithful church of Christ.

[Athanasius]

Dearborn, MI, which is not far from Jackson where I live, and is where the largest population of "Arabs" live outside of the Mideast. This population of folks have moved as far as Lansing, Ann Arbor, Jackson and Toledo, where I would suspect they out number the Hispanics by quite a bit. For the most part, most of this demographic is a productive part of the economy and have found a lot of pride in entrepreneurship opportunities found in our country and the freedoms that exist for them. Most do not want that interrupted and have cooperated with the US authorities and find that they would rather be investigated rather than be deported or jeopardize their positions in the US. I was friends with an Iranian who moved here and he was in contact with the Iranian population in the Dearborn area through his family and friends. He is a very good person and has told me on many occasions that the Islamic extremes that we see on TV are really captors of a population of people that were much happier in a more Westernized country under the Shah when he was their leader.

Personally, I think that the extremist in these countries are going to be shortly removed, and a more hideous and sinister Islam will come forward being presented as a friendly religion, especially toward liberal Christianity and the apostatized church. I can see an alliance between Rome, the apostatized church and Islam, which would take in most of the population of the world and could easily persecute the faithful church of Christ.

In NJ, the Muslims danced in the streets of Paterson, NJ, when the Twin Towers fell. I wish I had the same good thoughts about Muslims as you, but I have grave doubts. I've studied Islam for years, and read the Quran twice, and commentaries. Mohammed's intital verses urging compatibility with "people of the book," were later abrogated by verses indicating that Islam had to be spread with the sword, "jihad."

As far as Rome goes, it is the Anglicans who have cozied up to the Muslims. Some Episcopal Churches actually have imans on staff! Under the current Pope, I don't think you'll see much going on between the Romans and the Muslims at all.

[Tallen]

As far as Rome goes, it is the Anglicans who have cozied up to the Muslims. Some Episcopal Churches actually have imans on staff! Under the current Pope, I don't think you'll see much going on between the Romans and the Muslims at all.

The rapprochement between Rome and Islam is already underway, I have posted in other threads about this. And may I remind you of the age of the current Pope and what his own catechism says about their Islamic brothers of faith, he won't be around for ever. Also note, that the Papacy is thinking in terms of centuries and plan for long term, slow change, which many of their own have written about. A single Pope will not side track the ultimate goals of Rome, and their lust for world power through their civil governmental head.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]

Contrast this to what they have said about the Protestants and what the Apostle said about the faith of Abraham.

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Gal 3:14 KJV)

And I agree, the Episcopal church is a real mess.

[Athanasius]

The rapprochement between Rome and Islam is already underway, I have posted in other threads about this. And may I remind you of the age of the current Pope and what his own catechism says about their Islamic brothers of faith, he won't be around for ever. Also note, that the Papacy is thinking in terms of centuries and plan for long term, slow change, which many of their own have written about. A single Pope will not side track the ultimate goals of Rome, and their lust for world power through their civil governmental head.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]

Contrast this to what they have said about the Protestants and what the Apostle said about the faith of Abraham.

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Gal 3:14 KJV)

And I agree, the Episcopal church is a real mess.

I believe that the current Catechism was put together under the last Pope, John Paul, whose motto was "all for Mary," whom some Catholics want to title "Co-Redemptrix." He was also well known for kissing the Quran. The current Pope doesn't have a favorable attitude toward Islam, but as you say, he won't be around forever.

Allah is not the Triune God, he is an imposter and those that believe that we all worship the same God are simply misled. Allah has no Son, and that is inscribed on the walls of the Dome of the Rock....for me, the Abomination of desolation standing where it should not be.........but then, that's another thread.

The Episcopal Church is apostate........some Christians remain in it, but the national leadership is heretical.

[JBaker45]

Hi nrajeff,

I think I recognize you from CARM.

As I recall, you are a Mormon. Is that correct?

And welcome to LAD :)

[Athanasius]

Hi nrajeff,

I think I recognize you from CARM.

As I recall, you are a Mormon. Is that correct?

And welcome to LAD :)

nra-jeff is a really good guy. I've known him for while now, and despite and differences we have in theological areas, we get along pretty well.

Yes, welcome nra!:clap:

[vja4Him]

I saw a documentary on the snake handling churches, and also read a documentary book on the snake handling churches. Are there many in your area?


Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that...

Nice shot on the rattler. I've got a collection of rattles from snakes my Papa dispatched while berry picking over the years. I've never seen a live wild rattlesnake myself. I think Papa must have killed them all. Either that or the snake handler churches from up in them mountains caught them all.

Papa had a keen eye. I've stepped right over copperheads that he would kill right behind me, looking where I stepped the whole time. Papa did not suffer a snake to live.

[Athanasius]

I saw a documentary on the snake handling churches, and also read a documentary book on the snake handling churches. Are there many in your area?

I heard there are gold rattlers down in Lakeland!:wwink:

[Tallen]

I heard there are gold rattlers down in Lakeland!:wwink:

Their venom is milk and honey, too! :bigthink:

[Tallen]

I heard there are gold rattlers down in Lakeland!:wwink:

Their venom is milk and honey, too! :bigthink: