How will we learn anything

[Fig-bearing Thistle]

if Uncle Sam bails us out of our difficulties, how will America ever learn? How will we ever learn from our mistakes, if we are bailed out of the consequences of our mistakes.

I was waffling on this Bail out deal, but I think I am against it now. I think America needs to be humbled, or the lessons will only get harder for our children.

I echo the sentiments of others when I say that I am willing to face great difficulty in my lifetime, and hardship, if it means that I can spare my own children from having to face even more difficult times than I would face in the event of a depression, or a financial collapse of some kind.

Our govt. is so arrogant. I wonder if anyone prays for guidance anymore? I know many do, but I see a lot of godlessness in government, and I am growing sick and tired of these arrogant pompous fools running our country, and our financial institutions.

[Tallen]

if Uncle Sam bails us out of our difficulties, how will America ever learn?

Let's make it clear, Uncle Sam isn't bailing out these companies, the American taxpayer is..., again.

[Fig-bearing Thistle]

Let's make it clear, Uncle Sam isn't bailing out these companies, the American taxpayer is..., again.

Agreed. But from the perspective of the growing ignorant in America, Uncle Sam is the Nanny. Some day, they will be the ignorant majority, if not already.

But the point I was making is the idea of learning from experience. If Uncle Sam stops us from learning from the consequences of our own stupidity and greed, how will we ever learn a thing?

[Tallen]

Agreed. But from the perspective of the growing ignorant in America, Uncle Sam is the Nanny. Some day, they will be the ignorant majority, if not already.

But the point I was making is the idea of learning from experience. If Uncle Sam stops us from learning from the consequences of our own stupidity and greed, how will we ever learn a thing?

Essentially we agree, I wasn't trying to be argumentitive with my post, but really trying to enhance your idea. America is made up of a new generation of folks that never experienced hardship like our parents and grandparents. It has ridden on the coat tails of their hardwork and foundations they laid before, and little has been done in sacrifice to keep their foundations sound. And now, instead of facing the piper and paying it's dues for fleshly excesses and ungodly appitites, the sins that have been the object of worship for so many. We are now expected to continue down this road with an easy escape for sin. It will not work, and will cause further hardship down the road. The cure is to repent of our sin (greed), get our house in order, and put men in leadership that can really lead with the knowledge of the ethic of hard work and with moral integrity.

We'll only be in worse shape down the road, if we don't make the hard choices today.

[Fig-bearing Thistle]

Essentially we agree, I wasn't trying to be argumentitive with my post, but really trying to enhance your idea. America is made up of a new generation of folks that never experienced hardship like our parents and grandparents. It has ridden on the coat tails of their hardwork and foundations they laid before, and little has been done in sacrifice to keep their foundations sound. And now, instead of facing the piper and paying it's dues for fleshly excesses and ungodly appitites, the sins that have been the object of worship for so many. We are now expected to continue down this road with an easy escape for sin. It will not work, and will cause further hardship down the road. The cure is to repent of our sin (greed), get our house in order, and put men in leadership that can really lead with the knowledge of the ethic of hard work and with moral integrity.

We'll only be in worse shape down the road, if we don't make the hard choices today.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned 'greed'. And that isn't capitalism's fault, or the fault of free enterprise, it is the fault of greedy people who love their riches more than they love God, and more than they love one another. And it is government people who are mainly at fault. IMO.