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JBaker45
9th October 2008, 03:26 PM
An email that I received from my friend Jim…

Who wrote Obama's best selling memoir, "Dreams From My Father"?

As you may know, Obama's memoir "Dreams From My Father" was an extremely well written book. Time Magazine called it the best written book by a politician, ever. However, stylistically, it differs greatly from his other memoir, "Audacity of Hope." And "Dreams From My Father" does not have Obama's voice... It does not sound like he talks. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to get ANY other samples of Obama's writing, as a student, lawyer or politician. As with other Obama documents, this appears to be intentional. However, University professor, Bill Ayers has written a number of books, notably "Fugitive Days." This article here explores the text of these men's two books with some startling strong correlations:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html)

From that article:
That much said, preliminary QSUM analysis supports an Ayers-Obama link. Systems designer Ed Gold--with twenty years of high-level experience in image and signal processing, pattern recognition, and classifier design and implementation--volunteered to run a QSUM scan on multiple excerpts from both memoirs. "I have completed the analysis," he wrote me, "and I think you will be pleased with the findings." In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams, he found "a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples that I processed."]

Did Bill Ayers ghost write "Dreams From My Father"?
University of Illinois Distinguished Professor of Education, Bill Ayers, has flatly refused to speak to the news media about Barack Obama. Do you, as I do, find that very odd?

Yes Jim, I do!

Tallen
9th October 2008, 03:38 PM
I guess I'll vote for Charles Baldwin, US Tax Payers Party.

He is right down the line with what I think, from what I know so far. :medium-smiley-011:

JBaker45
9th October 2008, 08:39 PM
I guess I'll vote for Charles Baldwin, US Tax Payers Party.

He is right down the line with what I think, from what I know so far. :medium-smiley-011:
Is he a consumption-based flat tax guy?

I could vote for that. :bigtup:

Tallen
9th October 2008, 10:58 PM
Is he a consumption-based flat tax guy?

I could vote for that. :bigtup:

Check him out John.

HERE (http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=53051)

I am just not comfortable with McCain and Palin. Although I thought Palin was a brillant move on his part to show the Hypocrisy of the Left. But I don't think she has the right stuff to be President if something were to happen to McCain.

Also, if Obama is elected he will be in for a short term, as I suspect some Nazi or ultra-right wacko will do him in. I truly hope that won't happen, but it seems that they are already advocating it. And I couldn't bear thinking that I voted for Sen. Biden and him becoming a President, he is just to dishonest and driven by special interest and his political party.

I have thought this through very carefully and feel the Republican party needs a message, they have lost folks like me and need to be told that by the votes we cast, even if it means that the Democrats get in for 4 years.

BTW, I am all for doing away with the income tax and closing the IRS. :bigtup:

JBaker45
10th October 2008, 12:21 AM
Check him out John.

HERE (http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=53051)
All in all, Charles Baldwin looks okay.

He seems to be a little too conservative on the abortion issue. When the life of the mother and child are both at stake, some serious choices need to be considered.

I find it interesting that on the budget priorities, he would eliminate scientific research while maintaining space exploration. And like to learn more about how that works ;-)

On the taxation issues, he looks pretty good.

I'm not fond of the idea of simply giving up in Iraq. If (or when) we do, then all that we have invested (including the lives that have been lost) will have been for nothing.

I'm basically okay we his other positions, even if I may prefer some slightly different approaches.



I am just not comfortable with McCain and Palin. Although I thought Palin was a brillant move on his part to show the Hypocrisy of the Left. But I don't think she has the right stuff to be President if something were to happen to McCain.

Also, if Obama is elected he will be in for a short term, as I suspect some Nazi or ultra-right wacko will do him in. I truly hope that won't happen, but it seems that they are already advocating it. And I couldn't bear thinking that I voted for Sen. Biden and him becoming a President, he is just to dishonest and driven by special interest and his political party.

I have thought this through very carefully and feel the Republican party needs a message, they have lost folks like me and need to be told that by the votes we cast, even if it means that the Democrats get in for 4 years.
If, by chance, McCain were to become elected, then I think that he would build a good (sold) cabinet for his office.

Palin has demonstrated sound decision making capabilities in Alaska. By raising the tax on the oil companies, Palin was able to get rid of the Alaska state tax altogether. But not only that, the government takes in so much money, they are able to give the "left over" money back to the citizens of Alaska.

Last year, instead of paying taxes, each citizen received a check for $1200. It is estimated that next year they will receive $2000.

So if anything were to happen to John McCain, I think that Palin would be able to take advantage of the people already in position around her, and with the Lord's help, she could make some good decisions.



BTW, I am all for doing away with the income tax and closing the IRS. :bigtup:
Three Cheers!!! :clap: (Me too.)

Swordman53
10th October 2008, 08:47 AM
Check him out John.

HERE (http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=53051)

I am just not comfortable with McCain and Palin. Although I thought Palin was a brillant move on his part to show the Hypocrisy of the Left. But I don't think she has the right stuff to be President if something were to happen to McCain.

Also, if Obama is elected he will be in for a short term, as I suspect some Nazi or ultra-right wacko will do him in. I truly hope that won't happen, but it seems that they are already advocating it. And I couldn't bear thinking that I voted for Sen. Biden and him becoming a President, he is just to dishonest and driven by special interest and his political party.

I have thought this through very carefully and feel the Republican party needs a message, they have lost folks like me and need to be told that by the votes we cast, even if it means that the Democrats get in for 4 years.

BTW, I am all for doing away with the income tax and closing the IRS. :bigtup:
I am torn between the two candidates. Both have strengths and weaknesses, and I disagree with both in key areas. As reality settles in, they both tend to gravitate towards the middle. But neither one can solve this fiscal crisis.

Here is my take for what it is worth.

Obama -

Strengths - charismatic, a born leader, Christian, advocate for the poor, extremely intelligent - was able to see the downside of the Iraq War from the beginning.
Weaknesses - inexperience (to the extreme) that may lead to niavete, abortion stand (always an issue for me), does not seem to understand foreign policy.
McCain -

Strengths - experience, strong foreign policy president, very focused, Christian
Weaknesses - I think McCain's time as a POW was honorable, but he does not seem to know that we cannot win every battle. He Lexington Plan shows energy policies that are ahead of the curve in terms of alternatives, but he never mentions them in the debates. Strategically, we as a nation and the republicans as a party need to know where and when to pick our fights. McCain does not seem to know how to fight his own political battle and is falling back into classic party attack modes. He needs to play up more on Obama's lack of action over the past few years in key areas like the economy and tie him to the democratic congress that got us into this mess. Then couple this with his lack of experience.
Biden -

Strengths - brings the experience to the table, but how much will Obama use this experience? And does the experience apply to the job at this point?
Weaknesses - Arrogant. I see a liberal strain of Cheney in Biden. Will he be able to righteously handle the power given to him?
Palin -

Strengths - charismatic (personality), Christian, a down and dirty American who we can identify with, pro-life with a passion. She is holding up well under the relentless attack of the media and the democrats.
Weaknesses - inexperience at the federal level. However, this is not quite as bad as people think. Any executive worth their salt relies heavily on committee and advisors. She has executive experience that all of the others lack. She also is a governor, just like Bill Clinton was when he ran. The difference is she is governor of a prosperous state.
Parties (current state) -

Democrats - Seem to have solid unity for a change. However, if the video I posted is true, they are responsible for blocking fiscal policy that might have saved us from this financial nightmare we are in. The are pro-choice and have a reputation for spending.
Republicans - In tormoil. They have lost their way. However, their core values still stand and it would be wrong to simply ignore those values. The abuses of some (Cheney, Rumfeld, etc.) need to be addressed and the party needs to reestablish its moral core.
How do we vote? As a member of another kingdom, I see this election as subordinate to how people vote for the real king, who sits above the powers. We may fall into another depression here, but it may drive us back to the root of what we were before prosperity and greed took over our lives - back to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

What are we hearing from the true king in a time like this? Are we looking to the teachings of Jesus to determine what our response should be no matter who gets elected and no matter what losses we see? Are we even listening to him? The powers are ordained by God and we must honor them as subordinate entities created to govern his world. We must also speak as his children to the abuses of such entities. The framework of American democracy is one of those power. Let us be sure that we voice our opinion at the polls in November. And pray that we become a light to the world.

Tallen
10th October 2008, 09:13 AM
How do we vote? As a member of another kingdom, I see this election as subordinate to how people vote for the real king, who sits above the powers. We may fall into another depression here, but it may drive us back to the root of what we were before prosperity and greed took over our lives - back to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

What are we hearing from the true king in a time like this? Are we looking to the teachings of Jesus to determine what our response should be no matter who gets elected and no matter what losses we see? Are we even listening to him? The powers are ordained by God and we must honor them as subordinate entities created to govern his world. We must also speak as his children to the abuses of such entities. The framework of American democracy is one of those power. Let us be sure that we voice our opinion at the polls in November. And pray that we become a light to the world.

I am in 100% agreement with you here.

Joe S
10th October 2008, 08:01 PM
I'm not sure a libertarian president would make much difference. The POTUS gets a vote on congressional bills, designates some cabinet positions, submits supreme court justices for congressional approval, and commands the military. That's about it. All the promises are hogwash. They don't have the power to implement them, but they get the blame for everything that goes wrong.

For example, if the democratically controlled congress decides on and submits a budget and Bush signs it, then it's Bush's fault when the economy heads south.

Baldwin would just veto every piece of legislation put before him, submit justices that would never gain approval, propose legislation that would never be seriously considered, on and on. It would be a frozen government- and maybe that's a good thing considering their track record. :P

But I realize that you realize that he has exactly a snowball's chance of winning, and you are voting for him as a matter of principle. A vote for either big party ticket is a big compromise for a Christian.

JBaker45
10th October 2008, 08:31 PM
By the way, I should probably note that I did have dinner with Barack Obama about 8 years ago during the democratic convention over here in LA.

At that time, Beverli's mother Norma (middle name Jean :smile:) was the vice president of the Chicago teacher's union and a senior delegate for the DNC (she's retired now).

She used to take me to meet with many democratic senators and congressmen and congresswomen (including Carol Mosley Braun, who I was always very taken with).
Of course, she would always introduce me a 'republican', and that's fair. I wouldn't have wanted her to get into trouble for smuggling a republican in there - Lol :smile:

But any way.. I was very impressed with Obama at that time. He is stunning to meet in person, with a commanding personality. And we had a good conversation over dinner.

Here is a photocopy of the letter that Norma received from Barack when she retired from the CTU last year :
(Sorry it's so large. I did compress it down a lot, so it's only 75K. But when I tries to reduce the image size, it became unreadable. So here it is…)

http://members.cox.net/johnbaker45/xfer/BarackObama.jpg

Tallen
10th October 2008, 10:09 PM
But I realize that you realize that he has exactly a snowball's chance of winning, and you are voting for him as a matter of principle. A vote for either big party ticket is a big compromise for a Christian.

That's about it Joe. It is a compromise of principals.

Tallen
10th October 2008, 10:10 PM
That's pretty cool John, you have touched history in the making.

JBaker45
10th October 2008, 10:46 PM
That's pretty cool John, you have touched history in the making.
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