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Tallen
5th November 2008, 10:29 AM
Michigan is historically a liberal state. And when it comes time for the Presidential election we have a long history of supporting the Democratic candidates. I knew before the election that Michigan would go to Obama, and probably that would be by a considerable amount of the votes.

Here is how it ended:

Obama: 2,844,271
McCain: 2,038,420
Nader: 33,207
Barr: 23,871
Baldwin: 14,927
McKinney: 9,081

Please note that the Independent Candidates if added up altogether would not have made a difference in Michigan. I knew that going into the election and had talked about it to YP via a phone conversation. That is one reason that I didn't feel obligated to vote for McCain here in Michigan. I know others felt their vote was much more important in other states, and if I lived in one of those states I probably would have felt the same way. As it stands now, I voted my conscience and one of the votes for Baldwin was mine. Most of the other candidates that I voted for were Republicans, except for two Democrats who I personally know and have worked with, respecting their positions and efforts.

I am now going to follow up with my efforts and write to the leaders of the Republican party that if they are going to want my future support, they will have to return to the conservative values that kept me in agreement in the past. I am not longer going to vote for "mavericks" like Bush and McCain, but will vote for folks that can lead with values that represent my beliefs.

As far as Obama. I don't think he is going to be the left's great hope, but will be a moderate who will work to keep the majority of American's supporting him. This will happen out of political necessity. With the Democratic party winning so many of the elections, they will push for a national health plan and be faced with a financial crisis that will not allow the ultra-left to push them into the "socialism" that so many fear. We have witnessed a short lived anomaly in the political process much like the Republican anomaly of the 90's. I suspect that at the end of Obama's first term most folks will be dissatisfied with him as they were with most other Presidents before him.

Blessings.

Yodas_Prodigy
5th November 2008, 03:09 PM
I agree with your assessment. It was definitely helpful that the Dem's did not control the Senate with a 60-40 advantage.

:pray:


Michigan is historically a liberal state. And when it comes time for the Presidential election we have a long history of supporting the Democratic candidates. I knew before the election that Michigan would go to Obama, and probably that would be by a considerable amount of the votes.

Here is how it ended:

Obama: 2,844,271
McCain: 2,038,420
Nader: 33,207
Barr: 23,871
Baldwin: 14,927
McKinney: 9,081

Please note that the Independent Candidates if added up altogether would not have made a difference in Michigan. I knew that going into the election and had talked about it to YP via a phone conversation. That is one reason that I didn't feel obligated to vote for McCain here in Michigan. I know others felt their vote was much more important in other states, and if I lived in one of those states I probably would have felt the same way. As it stands now, I voted my conscience and one of the votes for Baldwin was mine. Most of the other candidates that I voted for were Republicans, except for two Democrats who I personally know and have worked with, respecting their positions and efforts.

I am now going to follow up with my efforts and write to the leaders of the Republican party that if they are going to want my future support, they will have to return to the conservative values that kept me in agreement in the past. I am not longer going to vote for "mavericks" like Bush and McCain, but will vote for folks that can lead with values that represent my beliefs.

As far as Obama. I don't think he is going to be the left's great hope, but will be a moderate who will work to keep the majority of American's supporting him. This will happen out of political necessity. With the Democratic party winning so many of the elections, they will push for a national health plan and be faced with a financial crisis that will not allow the ultra-left to push them into the "socialism" that so many fear. We have witnessed a short lived anomaly in the political process much like the Republican anomaly of the 90's. I suspect that at the end of Obama's first term most folks will be dissatisfied with him as they were with most other Presidents before him.

Blessings.

Tallen
5th November 2008, 03:48 PM
I agree with your assessment. It was definitely helpful that the Dem's did not control the Senate with a 60-40 advantage.

To be honest Joe that worried me more than Obama becoming the President.

Athanasius
6th November 2008, 03:06 PM
Michigan is historically a liberal state. And when it comes time for the Presidential election we have a long history of supporting the Democratic candidates. I knew before the election that Michigan would go to Obama, and probably that would be by a considerable amount of the votes.

Here is how it ended:

Obama: 2,844,271
McCain: 2,038,420
Nader: 33,207
Barr: 23,871
Baldwin: 14,927
McKinney: 9,081

Please note that the Independent Candidates if added up altogether would not have made a difference in Michigan. I knew that going into the election and had talked about it to YP via a phone conversation. That is one reason that I didn't feel obligated to vote for McCain here in Michigan. I know others felt their vote was much more important in other states, and if I lived in one of those states I probably would have felt the same way. As it stands now, I voted my conscience and one of the votes for Baldwin was mine. Most of the other candidates that I voted for were Republicans, except for two Democrats who I personally know and have worked with, respecting their positions and efforts.

I am now going to follow up with my efforts and write to the leaders of the Republican party that if they are going to want my future support, they will have to return to the conservative values that kept me in agreement in the past. I am not longer going to vote for "mavericks" like Bush and McCain, but will vote for folks that can lead with values that represent my beliefs.

As far as Obama. I don't think he is going to be the left's great hope, but will be a moderate who will work to keep the majority of American's supporting him. This will happen out of political necessity. With the Democratic party winning so many of the elections, they will push for a national health plan and be faced with a financial crisis that will not allow the ultra-left to push them into the "socialism" that so many fear. We have witnessed a short lived anomaly in the political process much like the Republican anomaly of the 90's. I suspect that at the end of Obama's first term most folks will be dissatisfied with him as they were with most other Presidents before him.

Blessings.

Believe it or not, Limbaugh just played sound bites from the mainstream media - 2 reporters chatting about Obama's acceptance speach being "creepy," because his presentation is so calculated to project the person Obama wants people to think he is. So, now the mainstream reporters may be a little dismayed about what they got!

Tallen
6th November 2008, 03:58 PM
Believe it or not, Limbaugh just played sound bites from the mainstream media - 2 reporters chatting about Obama's acceptance speach being "creepy," because his presentation is so calculated to project the person Obama wants people to think he is. So, now the mainstream reporters may be a little dismayed about what they got!

Good, and I don't think this will be the end of it. :clap: