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Maestroh
26th April 2008, 10:01 AM
I made a mistake, and I will now have to face the consequences.

About two weeks ago, I was on YouTube responding to some different things when a particular poster went after me. Those of you who know YT know that you only have 500 characters to state something, and those threads are easy to get lost inside of trying to figure out who's being addressed. So I challenged a particular KJV Onlyist to a debate.

The mistake is not the position; it is quite easy to demonstrate the KJV Only position is fraught with double standards to everyone except perhaps the advocate. However, I'm now finding out that the
KJV Onlyist is a Riplinger-type, not the Waite-Fuller-Cloud type. So I will probably be accused of picking
on someone who is an easy target. Please note that I did not know that at the time, which is understandable - most of them use the same vocabulary and despite various nuances, there is a difference between being a KJVO advocate, a KJV advocate, and a TR-MT advocate.

One more thing: despite the claims of Waite and Ruckman that their positions are 'different,' they are
only different in DEGREE, not KIND. Waite refuses to acknowledge the KJV has any errors as does Ruckman. The only difference is that Waite does not call his KJV 'advanced revelvation.' But he may as well! If the TR disagrees with the KJV at a point, he sides with the KJV, and he opts for a TR (1894) that didn't even exist in 1611 to be his 'Greek text.'

But I will now suffer the consequences.

Just waiting to hear back from a mod.

JBaker45
26th April 2008, 03:17 PM
Just go ahead with the debate Maestroh.

I will be interested in what you have to say, not your opponent ;-)

Maestroh
26th April 2008, 07:30 PM
Just go ahead with the debate Maestroh.

I will be interested in what you have to say, not your opponent ;-)

I've got a hunch this is going to be bad. I checked out a post I hadn't seen before, and it said something about Origen making up the Alexandrian text and Westcott and Hort lying and somebody getting castrated....

I shake my head in wonderment...

Tallen
26th April 2008, 07:35 PM
I checked out a post I hadn't seen before, and it said something about Origen making up the Alexandrian text and Westcott and Hort lying and somebody getting castrated...

Maybe the plot for a movie.

TigerBunny
27th April 2008, 02:22 AM
Maybe the plot for a movie.

Comedy or tragedy? Hmmm...wait. In order for either to be good they both most incorperate the other to some degree. I retract the question. :sparkle:

Tallen
28th April 2008, 11:04 AM
M, where is the debate going to be?

Maestroh
29th April 2008, 10:23 AM
M, where is the debate going to be?

Ted,

It is supposed to be on the CARM debate board. The opponent is bbfohio, but he hasn't been online for a week. I'm working an opening statement, but after reading a couple of his posts, I realized we're not dealing with someone rational, either. He has promised to 'embarrass' me; I should be posting the agreed upon rules in the next day or two. He was posting constant and suddenly stopped, but I'm going to try to make contact via YouTube since that's where we began.

Tallen
29th April 2008, 11:06 AM
As they say, I'll keep an eye out. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_6_1.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYUS)

Not saying this is the case, but some of these folks will just change their handle and continue their crusade. It is an easy way out.


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